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Discussing Persuasion

Meetings· Virtual Book Club

1 Sep

By Bill Gaither

Members met on August 24, 2025, for an engaging and memorable lecture and discussion of Jane Austen’s brilliant novel Persuasion, led by Austen scholar and member Mary Jane Curry. Regional coordinator Sara Tavela presided. This was a Virtual Book Club meeting.

With visuals, commentary, and group discussion, Mary Jane considered the major political, economic, and social elements that appear in the novel, commented on the discoveries and insights of scholars and literary critics, explored the attributes of the main characters, commented on Austen’s use of nature, and considered the numerous passages that describe the emotions of romantic love and heartbreak in Anne Elliot and Captain Frederick Wentworth.

Noting that that Persuasion is the most specific of Austen’s novels with regard to social and political context, covering about seven months from late summer 1814 through February 1815, Mary Jane commented on the pause in the Napoleonic wars that set thousands of British naval officers and seamen ashore; on the extreme risks and the potentially great opportunities for prize money that naval officers such as Captain Wentworth encountered; on instances of titled landowners, like Sir Walter Elliot, who mismanaged estates and were forced to sell or rent them; and on the social conventions and laws that not only prevented Anne from initiating a meeting with Wentworth but also prevented Anne and Wentworth from corresponding by letter.

In discussing the contributions of scholars and critics, Mary Jane commented on the sources and symbolism of the names of characters; on psychological insights into Anne Elliot’s deep depression and her role as an outsider and a listener; on Austen’s use of nature in the novel; on the uncertain character of Mrs. Smith; and on the extent of Austen’s anti-slavery sentiments.

In a discussion of the characters of the novel, members commented on Anne Elliot’s talents and abilities, her extensive reading, her patience and usefulness, her “elegance of mind and sweetness of character,” all of which her family signally fail to appreciate as they neglect her and impose on her, viewing her as “nobody” and “only Anne.” There was condemnation of Sir Walter Elliot’s narcissism, bordering on sociopathy, and of the superficiality and self-centeredness of Anne’s older sister Elizabeth Elliot. The character of sister Mary Musgrove was seen as more complex. Mary’s complaints and self-contradictions are irritating and sometimes comic, and Mary displays a distressing lack of empathy with other human beings. But of all the members of the Elliot family, Mary is the only one who does not receive real affection and liking from anyone (except Anne), not even from her husband, and her constant complaints indicate a deep human need for attention and validation that she does not know how to satisfy.

Mary Jane commented on several aspects of Jane Austen’s use of nature in Persuasion. She observed that a love of the outdoors and even of nature itself is a bond that is shared between the hero and heroine in each of Austen’s novels (see the discussion by Anne and Wentworth of the beauties of Lyme in Ch. 20 in Persuasion). She commented on the rhapsodic description of the natural beauty of Lyme and its environs (Ch. 11), saying that nowhere else in her novels had Austen devoted so much praise to the beauty of a natural scene. Interestingly, she pointed out that in the walk to Winthrop (Ch. 10) Austen indicates that a grief and depression such as Anne’s can be so deep that even the beauty of nature and the poetic descriptions of nature that Anne recalls are unable to provide distraction or consolation. And she commented on the brilliantly evocative description of the incoming tide during Anne and Henrietta’s early morning walk in Lyme (Ch. 12).

Most interesting of all were the discussions of the numerous passages in which Austen describes the deep emotions of romantic love and heartbreak in Anne and Wentworth. Members commented on the richness, the force, and the often private nature of these emotions, and on the realism and beauty of Austen’s descriptions of them, as in the following description of the responses of the just-reconciled Anne and Wentworth when Charles Musgrove inquires if he might leave them alone together on the sidewalks of Bath:

There could be only the most proper alacrity, a most obliging compliance for public view; and smiles reined in and spirits dancing in private rapture. (Ch. 23)

These passages of love or heartbreak include Anne’s deep depression on the walk to Winthrop (Ch. 10); Anne’s conflicting feelings in Molland’s when she sees Wentworth approaching (Ch. 19); the emotional overtones of the conversation between Anne and Wentworth in the Octagon Room in Bath (Ch. 20); the genial debate between Anne and Harville on the constancy of love in men and women, Wentworth’s passionate letter to Anne, and the private conversation between the two reunited lovers on the gravel walk (Ch. 23); and the felicity of Anne and Wentworth in marriage and Anne’s glory in being “a sailor’s wife” (Ch. 24).

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